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"Cheap android phone" on Google Shopping shows options for $30. Didn't even know they get that cheap.


Is then logging into your Google account (if you have one) also without cost and tradeoffs?


Just create a new one… you people are just looking for ways to be difficult about this


Have you tried creating a Google account without a mobile phone number from a public computer? Go ahead, I’ll wait.

Ok, so assuming he doesn’t want to spend $500+ for a mobile phone, he’s looking at an Android. Then, when he logs into a Google account, Google hoovers up his location, his associated credit card (if he has one, what if he does not and does not want one?), and countless other personal metadata at the very least that will likely never go away. Even if he does suddenly go from no smartphone to being a savvy personal steward of his digital privacy, you can bet that Google is scrambling to capture as much as possible, at all times, about its users’ personal lives and data.

  - If he doesn’t want a Google account, /just/ create a new one
  - If he doesn’t have a credit card, /just/ use a family member’s
  - If he has Parkinson’s and can’t use touch input, /just/ have a friend do it
  - etc.
The question is not whether these obstacles can be overcome (trivially, by “normals”). The question is whether we want these to be the default requirements for basic participation in society. And it’s a completely legitimate question.


Will the app work on it?

Also will you need a $xx/month cell phone subscription plan? With a credit check and everything?




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