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JumpCrisscross 8 months ago | hide | past | favorite


The “details” aren’t hidden in the way this headline wants you to think. It’s in bullet points in the middle of the article:

1 was it being rear-ended while stopped. The other 2 were low speed, probably parking lot events.

Shouldn’t be happening, but this is a very misleading headline and undermines the anti-Tesla case.


https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/ffdd/sgo-2021-01/SGO-2021-01_In...

Tesla redacts the narrative (final column) which describes the situation and context, unlike every serious ADS manufacturer.

In addition, Ashok Elluswamy, head of Autopilot and Vice President of Vehicle Software directly and intentionally lied about the number of incidents in the Q2 2025 earnings call: “We have more than seven thousand miles operating in the Austin area. Just because the service is new, we have a handful of vehicles right now, but we are trying to expand the service in terms of the area and also the number of vehicles both in Austin and other locations. So far, there are no notable safety-critical interventions.”

That is a direct lie to investors in official communication.


Definitely not parking lot events. There was another crash that didn't have to be reported specifically because it was in a parking lot.


It was also noted that the other autonomous vehicles such as Waymo and Zoox also had collisions during the same period.


The redaction tells you everything, especially in the context of Tesla's prior and ongoing behavior.

Related: "FSD"-without-LiDAR shouldn't be on the road, a functional government would have been banned it and eliminated it from public spaces aggressively.


Meh.. it never will be perfect it just has to be statistically better then human driving.


Yes, having this many crashes over a period in which they only drove 7000 miles is noticeably worse than human driving.


Particularly when considering that each of their cars does have a human backup driver who should be taking over to avoid crashes. How much worse would the cars be unsupervised?




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