I think that it's actually your perspective, which I think is essentially a sci-fi perspective, is deeply human biased. You think space is cool because you evolved under an open sky that rotates to show you "the universe" roughly every 12 hours. But most stars are red dwarfs and any planet with water they have would be tidally locked. I have my doubts that sky watching is a thing on such a planet given that the flares probably mean you have to live underground. Other places never show you the sky at all. For example, any species evolved in the oceans of Enceladus would have to through hundreds of kilometers of ice before understanding that there even IS a universe. Similarly for species evolved on clouded worlds like Venus or Titan. Their mythology and psychology would not resonate with space at all.
Earths moon is also quite ridiculous. We don't see anything like it anywhere else. Now, would we all be so fascinated with space if we didn't have that moon and the eclipses to go along with it? I don't think so.
> This is all done via AI and automated factories that terraform planets into Von Neumann manufacturing hubs
But it is, very obviously, not done. And this is why I call yours a "sci fi perspective" because you hand wave away huge scientific and engineering challenges that might never be overcome. We have five (5!) probes that sort of accidentally left the solar system. We have 0 probes that we deliberately sent to other stars. We have 0 AI systems that can run factories. We have 0 autonomous factories. We have never made anything that ever extracted in-situ resources to be used by itself. We have 0 self-replicating machines. We have 0 self-repairing machines. We have grown human in-vitro 0 times. We have very little technology that can even survive a hundred years.
You have to understand that when Von Neuman talks about these probes it is little more than a doodle that illustrates a neat idea. There is nothing about reality that dictates that machines like this must be possible.
> Why did Europeans colonize the entire earth?
They did? Maybe you from an alternative earth but on my earth we (humans) haven't even colonized the poles, most deserts or oceans, all of which are magnitudes more habitable then anything we see in the night sky.
> Life is a virus that spreads without limit.
Von Neumann probes are lines of pencil on paper and nerve signal in brains and nothing more. But even if they existed they wouldn't be life.
> Do you not understand why people invested in early merchant ships in like the 1500s?
Yes, YOU invest, YOU get the spices. When you send for other stars you won't get anything back in your or your children's or your grandchildren's lifetime.
I think that it's actually your perspective, which I think is essentially a sci-fi perspective, is deeply human biased. You think space is cool because you evolved under an open sky that rotates to show you "the universe" roughly every 12 hours. But most stars are red dwarfs and any planet with water they have would be tidally locked. I have my doubts that sky watching is a thing on such a planet given that the flares probably mean you have to live underground. Other places never show you the sky at all. For example, any species evolved in the oceans of Enceladus would have to through hundreds of kilometers of ice before understanding that there even IS a universe. Similarly for species evolved on clouded worlds like Venus or Titan. Their mythology and psychology would not resonate with space at all. Earths moon is also quite ridiculous. We don't see anything like it anywhere else. Now, would we all be so fascinated with space if we didn't have that moon and the eclipses to go along with it? I don't think so.
> This is all done via AI and automated factories that terraform planets into Von Neumann manufacturing hubs
But it is, very obviously, not done. And this is why I call yours a "sci fi perspective" because you hand wave away huge scientific and engineering challenges that might never be overcome. We have five (5!) probes that sort of accidentally left the solar system. We have 0 probes that we deliberately sent to other stars. We have 0 AI systems that can run factories. We have 0 autonomous factories. We have never made anything that ever extracted in-situ resources to be used by itself. We have 0 self-replicating machines. We have 0 self-repairing machines. We have grown human in-vitro 0 times. We have very little technology that can even survive a hundred years.
You have to understand that when Von Neuman talks about these probes it is little more than a doodle that illustrates a neat idea. There is nothing about reality that dictates that machines like this must be possible.
> Why did Europeans colonize the entire earth?
They did? Maybe you from an alternative earth but on my earth we (humans) haven't even colonized the poles, most deserts or oceans, all of which are magnitudes more habitable then anything we see in the night sky.
> Life is a virus that spreads without limit.
Von Neumann probes are lines of pencil on paper and nerve signal in brains and nothing more. But even if they existed they wouldn't be life.
> Do you not understand why people invested in early merchant ships in like the 1500s?
Yes, YOU invest, YOU get the spices. When you send for other stars you won't get anything back in your or your children's or your grandchildren's lifetime.