> Wasn’t the original intention behind facebook to accumulate a directory of hotties, probably with the aim of bringing them ‘closer’?

Sort of.

Wikipedia @ 2:

> Mark Zuckerberg built a website called "Facemash" in 2003 while attending Harvard University. The site was comparable to Hot or Not and used photos from online face books, asking users to choose the 'hotter' person".

Britannica:

> Despite its brief tenure, 450 people (who voted 22,000 times) flocked to Facemash. That success prompted Zuckerberg to register the URL http://www.thefacebook.com in January 2004.

> They pretty much put it on the label; it’s not called personality book.

Wikipedia @ 3:

> A face book or facebook is a paper or online directory of individuals' photographs and names published by some American universities.

Wikipedia @ 2:

> Zuckerberg coded a new site known as "TheFacebook", stating, "It is clear that the technology needed to create a centralized Website is readily available ... the benefits are many."

[1] https://www.britannica.com/money/Facebook

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_book

While we're doing historical quotes:

"People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks." -Mark Zuckerberg

> lots of people encounter problems with sleep on linux

Yeah, because they buy a Windows laptop, slap Linux on it, and expect it to work.

OSX sucks even more by this metric; it won't even install!

I was looking into hibernation on my Framework 13 with Ubuntu. Debian doesn't support it with SecureBoot enabled. Now you might say "just disable SecureBoot", but that is a whole new concept to understand.

I've found suspend performance has improved since upgrading to a kernel that supports the AMD 7640U NPU cores. I have no concrete evidence of that though.

I'm happy to accept poorer sleep performance to have a repairable laptop and Linux OSS (with good support), but I wouldn't say its problem free.

Well if you buy a Linux laptop and slap Windows on it, sleep will most likely work. Unfortunately Microsoft got preferential treatment.

Exactly. This is precisely why I stopped buying Windows computers and started buying System76. Well that and the support.

Looks like Framework has started heading this direction too, which is nice to see.

Yeah. The reason is that a lot (almost all?) consumer hardware is broken, but in ways that either minimally impact Windows or which are worked around in drivers.

> Intel Windows netbooks

Netbooks were originally Linux. MSFT created a special licensing class just to try to undercut it. It wasn't great, but because Windows and Microsoft licensing, it quickly took off. People realized Windows on netbooks sucks, thought that meant that netbooks sucked, and eventually netbooks died. Until, arguably, ChromeOS arrived.

RIP, Linux netbooks of yore. I do miss you so.

What is "CPE" in this context? It's probably not "Common Platform Enumeration" (my top results for "cpe linux") or "Customer-Premises Equipment." ("cpe networking")

Googling "cpe vs router" shows websites comparing "Customer Premises Equipment" with routers. I don't think it fits though.

Customer premises equipment.

People who use this term are in telco.

I think it's your second one (used to be called the "modem" in the modem→router→ pc setups of yore).

> CPE generally refers to devices such as telephones, routers, network switches, residential gateways (RG), set-top boxes, fixed mobile convergence products, home networking adapters and Internet access gateways that enable consumers to access providers' communication services and distribute them in a residence or enterprise with a local area network (LAN).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer-premises_equipment

Given that the Wikipedia definition of CPE includes routers, I don't see how calling it CPE precludes it being a router, as the poster claimed:

> That's not a router, that's a CPE, and one without IPv6 support

I think a CPE could (be/include) a router, but usually it refers to the demarc between the provider's network and the customer's (no matter who owns/manages it).

For a Linux box to be a true CPE you'd likely need somewhat of a specialized card, one that can communicate directly to the next device up the line (e.g, take commercial fiber or cable in, ISDN modem, etc).

If it just shoots out ethernet into some other box next to it, it's likely not a CPE.

Plenty of isps that provide internet over regular ethernet. But it's a ye olde telecom provider term that referred to the phone, that you also didnt own yourself. Doesn't always apply cleanly these days.

Usually it's "something else" that turns into RJ45 (as ethernet has a maximum length) - now if you're in a datacenter you likely can get raw RJ45 Internet).

Fiber uses ethernet as well. Though ethernet fiber to the building and rj45 inside is common too.

Yes, but then you'd need a "somewhat specialized card" to turn a Linux computer into a "CPE" - a fiber transceiver.

And what if you just have rj45? Is a ethernet card also special? Transceivers aren't particularly special or hard to get either. Point is that's not what makes it a CPE, ownership does.

It's an old term used by telecom to refer to the phone they owned that's in the customers home. It has been used after by internet providers if they put a device in your home. If it's your own device it's not a CPE as seen from the isp perspective.

Really? They have buried Cat5/6 cable speaking Ethernet coming onto your property?

I've never heard of that before. How does that work? Your ISP would always have to have some infrastructure within 100 meters of your router then.

In my case I have AT&T Fiber that IIUC carries ethernet frames encoded optically.

But then you'd need the "somewhat specialized card" to turn a Linux box into a "CPE" - a fiber transceiver.

No. But fiber to the building and rj45 inside is common here. Or fiber to each apartment. All regular ethernet.

I mean the wikipedia literally states:

> CPE generally refers to devices such as telephones, routers, network switches, residential gateways (RG), set-top boxes, fixed mobile convergence products, home networking adapters and Internet access gateways that enable consumers to access providers' communication services

From my understanding any type of device that is used to extend or facilitate provider services is a CPE. So a router just acting as an extender would still be a cpe, as would a modem, as would anything that is on the customer side and facilitates provider services. Only situation a router wouldn't be a cpe is if it was just for a local lan network.

Thread on the Collabora post he authored: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47599305

TDF's response got posted but did not gain traction here (so far): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47609108

Comments moved thither. Thanks!

(I've put the response URL in the toptext there as well)

More than that. He was one of the primary external developers back when OpenOffce was at Sun. He was responsible for the go-oo fork due to Sun restrictions and slowness, and was one of (if not the) main reason LibreOffice became its own thing after Sun started sinking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Meeks_(software_develo...

The Open Road to Freedom comic at Collabora is making more and more sense.

https://www.collaboraonline.com/torf-index/