As an aside, I thought the BBC telling it's "journalists" not to call it a kidnapping was the most hilarious thing to come from this:

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2026/01/05/bbc-maduro-v...

> “Kidnapping” is an uncomfortable word. It suggests force, illegality and wrongdoing. “Captured” sounds more respectable. It belongs to the language of war. “Seized” sounds calmer still — almost administrative, like someone found it on a supermarket shelf.

Don't worry nobody here said anything even remotely political, it wouldn't even occur to them, so your status quo is safe.

They assassinate truckloads of people all the time too though, Mossad operations in the west are usually not even investigated or reported by western media, they just quietly release agents back to Israel if they ever accidentally caught them. Some info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_espionage_in_the_Unite...

Given the '72 events at the Olympics, that's reasonable. Altough their colonialism, para-Nazism (Zionism) with tons of school brainwashing and the IDF war crimes are on par on the Islamic fundamentalism sickos with madrassas and the like. Different shades from the same turd.

Edit:, in '72, Munich attacks.

While everyone in the Mediterranean was trading, sharing and mating each other (especially under the Roman empire) boosting commerce, sales and culture -relatively speaking to what you could find in a tribe-, these backwards shepherds (both sides) want to bring the world back to the Bronze Age.

Gnostics at least got it better, as Arrians.

The alternative would be to just not do anything and to remove liability from Meta et al. In the world we live in, where competing interests already spent tens of billions to bribe/lobby the EU, we have to be realistic about it.

This open source and transparent ZKP-based approach is extremely surprising to see, publishing a draft in advance and inviting the public to break it so it can be improved? Are you kidding me? What about the billions of private investment in all the companies that offer centralized ID checks like Persona, Socure, ID.me and more? Thats a growing billion dollar industry. They all counted on this as a future market opportunity that the EU just seem to have destroyed at least in the EU?

People fighting against this age id app might be paradoxically useful idiots for billion dollar investments and lobbying efforts. The demos is once again dragged into the trenches to fight a war they don't understand.

The main issue appears to be that as per the blueprint user MUST use one of the mandated handsets (iPhone or Android with pre-installed and privileged Google Services) and:

- MUST use either Google or Apple account - must not be banned by the provider or sanctioned in the USA

These issues have been flagged to the devs working on the blueprint since the inception, only to be handwaved away.

Getting banned can happen randomly even if you're not doing anything illegal or wrong (it's enough for a robot to decide you're within the blast radius), getting sanctioned can happen if you're an UN lawyer investigating human rights abuses USA actually likes.

So I do see a problem here.

The technical specifications published online foresee publication of the app also on alternative android stores, but Linux phone users are missing out. Though I guess things could always be extended...

Their security model requires remote attestation. So, open, user-controlled platforms cannot be used. Of course some other future locked-down linux-based OS might be usable.

Remote attestation in theory includes all aosp-compliant attestation implementations (in practice that's GrapheneOS already), but the current project plans and implementation openly reject it.

> The alternative would be to just not do anything and to remove liability from Meta et al.

Or just give parents easy to use parental controls. But that wouldn't grow the surveillance state.

Or just have parents look after their children.

That’s why they want parental controls that actually work and don’t require the skills of a sysadmin to get right.

Americans deep political confusion is really something to behold. How do you both hold the contradictions in your head? Every presidency no matter it's so called political ideology, liberal or conservative, have the same exact policies on mass surveillance? The Patriot act and fisa amendment was bipartisan, Obama voted for the Fisa amendment, Biden voted for the Patriot act.

The young people conservatives fantasize/complain about tend to be left-wing, their ideology has practically zero representation in politics, how do you make those the scapegoats of some confusing grand Jordan Peterson style social psychology argument it makes no sense. And how does republicans tossing civil liberties to "own the libs" mesh with libs slashing the same civil liberties? It's like the spiderman pointing at each other meme.

People don't understand that the way the media makes money is by stoking the "two sides" war.

People are so insanely ideologically charged up, the deepest conviction possible coming right from their lizard brain, all because they are lost in the sauce of an industry that is dependent on showing them random ads as frequently as possible.

It's actually kind of hilarious, and if you're one of these people, take a step back and see what's going on.

Exactly, representatives from both parties need to be forced to add FISA amendments that add privacy protections, most of everybody agrees with that enthusiastically if you explain it to them. Yet people are divided into their respective bullshit partisan trench lines by the two party theater.

No PRISM was the legal sharing of data, that's what op described just downloading all your data from the cloud companies. The thing you are thinking of is codenamed MUSCULAR that is evesdropping on unencrypted communication between yahoo and google data centers outside of the US jurisdiction where PRISM didn't apply (at the time).

Worth mentioning that Chinese people have a vastly different perspective on new technology, in the west people are incredibly pessimistic. It's not the technology itself, it's the surrounding system that makes that difference. The alternative vision for the future already exists.

Perhaps there is something more fundamentally wrong here if the government subsidizes privatized infrastructure that is making billions in profit? In the early days of private radio stations governments required all kinds of things to the public's benefit from them, the reasoning was the inherently limited medium of the airways, how quaint.

All establishment media, thinktanks and both parties are pro US imperialism in general which necessitates wars of aggression, you have to read this critique more like it's taking place within the pro-war group. Like everybody is agreeing with the Iran war in principle thats not even up to debate anywhere in the mainstream. It wouldn't even occur to most Americans that "no wars at all" is even an option to begin with. To most, their "freedom" and safety depends on wars thousands of miles away.

One example you can look for (it's everywhere) is in the way Chinese military capabilities are discussed by media like that, what is often brought up against them is "the lack of experience", without a hint of irony alongside the implicit view of china as the dangerous aggressor and rival. Imperialism is just the air they breathe, they don't notice it at all. Peaceful coexistence is not an option.