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Security through obscurity is still better than no obscurity...

There aren't that many combinations. I finally won hahaha

I still remember when Sam tweeted about how gpt-5 was so smart it scared him.

Then, I only switched from gpt-4 to gpt-5 because the price was cheaper lolz


Linus built git in 8 days or something.

No he didn’t. He built a proof of concept demo in 7 days then handed it off to other maintainers to code for real. I’m not sure why this myth keeps getting repeated. Linus himself clarifies this in every interview about git.

His main contributions were his ideas.

1) The distributed model, that doesn’t need to dial the internet.

2) The core data structures. For instance, how git stores snapshots for files changes in a commit. Other tools used diff approaches which made rewinding, branch switching, and diffing super slow.

Those two ideas are important and influenced git deeply, but he didn’t code the thing, and definitely not in 7 days!


Those were not his ideas. Before Git, the Linux kernel team was using BitKeeper for DVCS (and other DVCS implementations like Perforce existed as well). Git was created as a BitKeeper replacement after a fight erupted between Andrew Tridgell (who was accused of trying to reverse engineer BitKeeper in violation of its license) and Larry McVoy (the author of BitKeeper).

https://graphite.com/blog/bitkeeper-linux-story-of-git-creat...

You may find this 10-year-old thread on HN enlightening, too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11667494


I agree and that’s the point I was trying to make.

Linus’s contribution is a great one. He learned from prior tools and contributions, made a lot of smart technical decisions, got stuff moving with a prototype, then displayed good technical leadership by handing it off to a dedicated development team.

That’s such a good lesson for all of us devs.

So why the urge to lie and pretend he coded it in a week with no help? I know you’re not saying this, but this is the common myth.


He did what needed to be done. Linux similarly has thousands of contributors and Linus's personal "code contribution" is almost negligible these days. But code doesn't matter. Literally anyone can generate thousands of lines of code that will flip bits all day long. What matters is some combination of the following: a vision, respect from peers earned with technical brilliance, audaciousness, tenacity, energy, dedication etc. This is what makes Linus special. Not his ability to bash on a keyboard all day long.

Im specifically pointing out the false history that Linus god-coded git and handed it to us on the 7th day.

In reality, it was a collaborative effort between multiple smart people who poured months and years of sweat into the thing.

I seem to agree with you. The real story is a good thing and Linus made important contributions!

But he didn’t create git by himself in a week like the parent comments argue.


The point was only that Linus didn't build git in 8 days and alone.

That's just being pedantic for the sake of it.

Git is decades old. Of course, there are tons of contributions after the first 10 days. Everyone knows that.

He started it and built the first working version.


It’s not being pedantic.

The parent comments are arguing that 17million for git 2.0 is insane because Linux wrote the original in a week.

Except that’s not true. He sketched out a proof of concept in a week. Then handed it off to a team of maintainers who worked on it for the next two decades.

It’s also not pedantic because Linus himself makes this distinction. He doesn’t say he coded Git and specifically corrects people in interviews when they this.


Nah, on the 7th day he rested... On the 8th he apologized for his behavior having learned the error of his ways.

On the ninth he roasted some fool.


I wish we had old Linus back just one day to review some vibecoded patch to Linux. I’d love to hear him rant about it.

In a cave, with a box of scraps!

People like to gatekeep coding as if it was some sort of mythical skills that only extremely smart people could do.

Tons of people can code. Coding is not some sort of mythical skill. Millions of people can code.

For some reason, this narrative is almost always applying on people who are politically incompatible with the left like Elon and Sam.


Apart from your last paragraph which is a little contentious, I agree with what you say.

I dont understand why people here require that every tech ceo to be some professional programmer or engineer. I don't think you _need_ to be that deep in it as the CEO. There are plenty of leaders at OpenAI that already fit the bill.

Sam is good at getting funding, seeing the bigger picture, and rallying towards a cause. That is the job of a CEO. It doesn't matter (imo) that he doesn't know how many parameters the next release will have. All that matters is he knows the impact of the new release and knows who to defer to for actual technical decisions.


> how Musk treated the engineers

Probably the least impactful factor for most users.

Unfortunately, independent of the politics, Musk destroyed X with many many odd decisions. Rebranding from Twitter to X is one of the top ones.


I've built many apps throughout the years.

One thing that I've learned is that privacy is a secondary concern. It's never a primary one.

If your app's main differentiation is privacy, it won't sell. Users just don't care about it that much.


Inauthentic activity benefits from privacy though. Inauthentic activity is a primary use case of ChatGPT, which is way more successful than anything you've ever made. Do you think kids using ChatGPT to cheat on homework would care if their chats were "private" but educators could check if submitted essays matched generated content? Uh, yes. So privacy isn't as simple of an idea as you think it is, and is certainly extremely valuable.

It's a telling that you picked an example where one user could access another user's private info in an unauthorized way. No famous app does that.

When I say privacy, I mean supporting the company promises a stronger privacy mechanism e.g. run locally, e2e encryption where the company itself cannot access your private info. This is the case for Session.

It turns out most users are okay with you promising not to use/access their private info for other means. That's already sufficient. Then, other factors e.g. usefulness are more important.


"When I say privacy, I mean everything that makes me right, and everything that makes you wrong."

"No no, that's not what I mean. I mean, privacy is this only, specifically this set of technologies applied to this very specific set of products, and nothing else. Whatever definition will allow me to make this conversation as uninteresting as possible."

Look, I guess my point is, privacy is complicated. In my example, I suppose OpenAI could authorize access to something. They already do, for training. Right? And in some sense, something valuable leaks from one users' data to another. It is still privacy when access to your data is limited in some important way from other people, even when you (or a lot of people, or other people) could benefit from such access. The biggest apps in the world have very, very complicated privacy stories.


It is certainly extremely valuable as an ideological construct, i.e. a fake notion to mislead people into self-defeating behaviors.

"Why not use $COP_APP?" "It's not private" "Well it's by a private company, it's not run by the government or anything - what the fuck are you talking about, corporal?"


> The most plausible explanation is that Satoshi is either dead or incapacitated.

He could have lost the key and doesn't want to be a target or ridiculed. Happened to a lot of people.


Probably never. There are a couple reasons:

1. We pay for saas, so we don't have to manage it. If you vibe-code or use these AI things, then you are managing it yourself.

2. Most Saas is like $20-$100/month/person for most Saas. For a software engineer, that maybe <1h of pay.

3. Most Saas require some sort of human in the loop to check for quality (at least sampling). No users would want to do that.

Number 2 is the biggest reason. It's $20 a month.... I'm not gonna replace that with anything.

Writing this message already costs more than $20 of my time.

I predict that the market will get bigger because people are more prone to automate the long-tail/last-mile stuff since they are able to


> 1. We pay for saas, so we don't have to manage it. If you vibe-code or use these AI things, then you are managing it yourself.

> 2. Most Saas is like $20-$100/month/person for most Saas. For a software engineer, that maybe <1h of pay.

    |Segment                   |Median Enterprise Price                   |
    |--------------------------|------------------------------------------|
    |Mid-market                |~$175/user/month                          |
    |Enterprise (<100 seats)   |~$470/seat/month implied (~$47K ACV)      |
    |Enterprise (100-500 seats)|~$312–$1,560/seat/month range (~$156K ACV)|

Enterprise contracts almost always include a platform fee on top of per-seat costs (67% of contracts), plus professional services that add 12–18% of first-year revenue.

So for a lot of companies, it's worth using AI to create a replacement.


> So for a lot of companies, it's worth using AI to create a replacement.

I'll add the nuance that those might be big companies with slack capacity, or at least firms that already are at a point in their effort/performance curve where marginal effort injections in their core business are not worthy enough (a point that, without being big companies, would be actually weird). Even with AI and as processes become more efficient effort is at premium, and depending on your firm situation an man-hour used in your business might be a better use of effort and time that using it on non-core services.



Interesting, so you're saying Anthropic/Openai/etc will get a general solution that won't be hands off. The moat for other companies will be creating the specific, managed solution.

I can see that, assuming models don't make some giant leap forward.


The moat is the whole package working together, not any single piece. That's what I've been finding building this (atmita.com). Cloud-native from scratch (not based on OpenClaw), so there's zero setup. It can hit any API directly, falls back to 1000+ managed integrations, and uses a browser when nothing else works. Memory is dynamic and adapts to whatever the task needs, and no user has complained about it breaking.

Your vision on the market for this is skewed by the fact that you're probably overpaid.

The website has to be intentional about being a parody. Damn.

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