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Android only.

Honestly thought you were listing traits that the US has now till the last line.

In what universe does the US not have "meaningful private sphere"?

Meta, Google and co control all your private data. GDPR is a european thing not an american or chinese thing.

CIA/FBI have their own massive data centers (see snowden) inkl. their own older bigger palantr style software.

Elon Musk was able to connect a Starlink server to your data and no one cared. He and his Duche aeh sry doge baby boys were able to access and download all Social Security Numbers.

If someone knows were Putin and all the other world leaders are at any given moment, I would bet its USA first than China if even because i don't think China cares that much about it than USA does.

And everyone out of scope of this, lives probably in some rural USA town were no one cares for you at all anyway, but thats the same thing as in China.


Really laugh my ass off, so much whataboutism and American centrism when the debate is whether China is trustworthy on AI. Given your ignorance you should go and do your research, but I will help you a bit here.

- Control goes beyond politics

state corporation monopoly, 党支部 in private sector, crackdowns on NGOs and charities.

- A single, all-encompassing ideology

Party led, mandarin speaking Han Chinese nationalism, blended with Little Pink's unquestionable support for Xi and the party.

- No meaningful private sphere

社区网格员

- Mass mobilization and propaganda

We saw mobilizations on Chinese social media, attacking celebrities who don't openly say anything the party wants them to say. Mobilization in real life is rare though, cos it had shown it can backfire.

- Extensive surveillance and repression

Do I really need to explain this?


> A lot of votes vote one way or the other because they would simply never vote for the other.

This, for me, is the crux. Politics is treated like a team sport in the US, you pick your side and cheer them on no matter what. And team sports in America are even more bananas - you grow up supporting the Brooklyn Dodgers and a few years later they're 2.5k miles away with a new name. This seems a perfect example of what's happened / happening to the Republican Party - it's not the same party any more, but everyone who tied their entire personality to cheering for the red team is still cheering for it as it burns the country to the ground. I predict that inside ten years it will have also had the name change and probably be run out of Florida or somewhere.


That's not exactly accurate as a diagnosis. Many former Bush/McCain/Romney staffers endorsed Kamala Harris:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-endorsement-bush-...

Trump caused a big political realignment actually.


I think it's more like a cult than a team sport. Sports fans figure out really fast if their manager is shit.

Can you clarify which is which?

Chinese propaganda seems to hit very hard these days. If you really don't know, you seriously need to check what media you are consuming. Yes, the US has huge problems, many old and some new, but on a serious technical level the answer is (at least for now) 100% clear.

> Chinese propaganda seems to hit very hard these days.

Assuming that everyone who disagrees with you is a propagandized bot is a terrible way to live. You will not learn.


Assuming that China is not officially a 100% authoritarian dictatorship takes some serious mental gymnastics or hardcore brainwashing by propaganda channels. In fact forget media manipulation. A simple look at what they did to their constitution would already tell you everything you need to know. The US might be moving in this same direction under Trump, but it sure as hell isn't there yet. And if they do try to do the same, there is a good chance for another civil war. So while China is already lost, there is still some level of hope for the US.

kein Mensch ist illegal

Really? Last I read the correlation breaks above a certain threshold, roughly that of "I don't need to worry about food or bills".

It's worth noting that while the curve flattens above a threshold, it doesn't level off completely at that threshold, there is still a positive correlation, just a smaller one.

No, that study was constantly misreported on. There's a nice correlation all the way up.

And that threshold would set someone in among richest 1 percent in the world.

And when is that exactly? It definitely isn't making (unadjusted for inflation) the $70k that study suggests.

People are happy when they are secure and unhappy when they are insecure. Who can you name is secure in all of their physical, social, mental, spiritual, etc needs right now?


I've been using Hetzner for ~20 years and every single support interaction I've ever had with them has been top tier. Never AI bots, always humans who are helpful, courteous and prompt. I can't think of a single company, let alone hosting company, whose customer service has been so consistently good.

It certainly helps the service never does anything wonky that requires a support interaction in the first place.

This comment doesn't deserve the downvotes, it's a very valid point.

Is it really that bad? Is there something I can read to learn more?

> Is it really that bad?

I say this as someone who quite enjoys his drink–you haven't seen a hardcore drinking culture until you've dodged multiple projectile vomiters in SoHo at like 5PM on a random Tuesday.


I somehow managed to avoid experiencing this despite living in the UK up to the age of 34.

I'm a bit late responding on my own sub-thread, but if you haven't seen these photos before, this is roughly what every city centre in the UK looks like after dark. https://www.maciejdakowicz.com/cardiff-after-dark/

Not Havant, though I was there to 18 and would've only had the independence to examine the nightlife for the two years in which I was doing my A-levels; not Aberystwyth as a university student, nor Plymouth city in my industrial year even though I lived here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Capitol+Students+Central+P...

Likewise, Cambridge was far too genteel for that, when I lived there.

Sheffield managed one night that would've fitted in with those pictures. When my partner and I walked past the football stadium as everyone was leaving.


Very surprised you never saw this in Plymouth!

Don't forget gambling. Though given that the gambling lobby were the only donor's to Starmer's leadership campaign that out-donated the pro-Israel lobbyists, I wouldn't bet on them doing something about it. Pun intended.

Edit: just realised I posted under the wrong comment. Doh.


I got gently admonished on here a while back for mentioning that I find those star graph things people put on their READMEs to have entirely the opposite effect than that which was intended. I see one of those and I'm considerably less likely to trust the project because a) you're chasing a stupider metric than lines of code, and b) people obviously buy stars.

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